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by jurisdictions. they make different decisions of rafa security procedures are adopted at local schools. it varies across the country. host: here is a question from max. how much are we wasting these funds? guest: that is a good question. one of the major challenges we face and assessing the programs is there is not a good framework in place to determine whether or not someone is doing a good job with the money or a bad job. some of the examples that we talked about earlier in the show would seem to indicate issues, or spending that is not in the best interest of the taxpayer. but globally speaking, fema and more broadly in the department of homeland security, we have not developed a framework to measure the success or failure. that makes it difficult. to determine what is waste and what is not. host: let's go to jean in new hampshire. independent caller. caller: i was just asking where the money comes from. where does that come from, the millions of dollars in waste? host: do you want to be more specific? caller: the conferences, the gao conferences. guest: that is a good question. let me make so
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